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	<title>Comments on: Fake complexity: traffic control</title>
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		<title>By: Playing at traffic management &#171; External Works</title>
		<link>http://emergenturbanism.com/2009/07/24/fake-complexity-traffic-control/comment-page-1/#comment-249</link>
		<dc:creator>Playing at traffic management &#171; External Works</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 12 Aug 2009 13:14:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] Emergent Urbanism takes a look at a traffic control simulator game set up by the University of Minnesota Center for Transportation Studies Intelligent Transportation Institute. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Market Urbanism</title>
		<link>http://emergenturbanism.com/2009/07/24/fake-complexity-traffic-control/comment-page-1/#comment-248</link>
		<dc:creator>Market Urbanism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 09 Aug 2009 21:15:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m writing a post as a follow-up to this.  A friend sent me a video of a busy intersection in Cambodia with no signals.  Amazing!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m writing a post as a follow-up to this.  A friend sent me a video of a busy intersection in Cambodia with no signals.  Amazing!</p>
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		<title>By: rund</title>
		<link>http://emergenturbanism.com/2009/07/24/fake-complexity-traffic-control/comment-page-1/#comment-247</link>
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		<pubDate>Fri, 07 Aug 2009 15:14:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>David Engwicht http://www.lesstraffic.com/EmpoyUs/DEstory.htm has also done a lot of work on traffic calming (when he found out about Hans Mondermans&#039; work he visited Hans to see firsthand his shared spaces).

David has found that where traditional traffic calming (i.e. chicanes, speed bumps) generally reduces traffic speeds by 10%, the holding of a street party or similar will generally reduce speeds by up to 50% weeks after the party was held.

The reason for this is that drivers will slow down if there is any uncertainty or interest in the streets they are driving in - that is why he advocates the removal of all traffic signs (expect the unexpected).

BTW there is a train driver simulation game that can be found in the arcades of Japan - i think i would enjoy playing that over being a traffic light controller!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>David Engwicht <a href="http://www.lesstraffic.com/EmpoyUs/DEstory.htm" rel="nofollow">http://www.lesstraffic.com/EmpoyUs/DEstory.htm</a> has also done a lot of work on traffic calming (when he found out about Hans Mondermans&#8217; work he visited Hans to see firsthand his shared spaces).</p>
<p>David has found that where traditional traffic calming (i.e. chicanes, speed bumps) generally reduces traffic speeds by 10%, the holding of a street party or similar will generally reduce speeds by up to 50% weeks after the party was held.</p>
<p>The reason for this is that drivers will slow down if there is any uncertainty or interest in the streets they are driving in &#8211; that is why he advocates the removal of all traffic signs (expect the unexpected).</p>
<p>BTW there is a train driver simulation game that can be found in the arcades of Japan &#8211; i think i would enjoy playing that over being a traffic light controller!</p>
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		<title>By: Stephen Gross</title>
		<link>http://emergenturbanism.com/2009/07/24/fake-complexity-traffic-control/comment-page-1/#comment-246</link>
		<dc:creator>Stephen Gross</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 21:45:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s instructive to compare the central-control philosophy of traffic planning with the decentralized-control philosophy of modern capitalist economics. In modern economics, policymakers have embraced the idea that the economy consists of millions of independent actors. Policy, then, is conceived of us subtle nudges and rules-of-the-game that shape, encourage, and contextualize those independent actions.

Traffic planners, however, aren&#039;t entirely on board with that philosophy. At least, with respect to intersection planning. Maybe they should all go get econ degrees in addition to help spread those ideas...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s instructive to compare the central-control philosophy of traffic planning with the decentralized-control philosophy of modern capitalist economics. In modern economics, policymakers have embraced the idea that the economy consists of millions of independent actors. Policy, then, is conceived of us subtle nudges and rules-of-the-game that shape, encourage, and contextualize those independent actions.</p>
<p>Traffic planners, however, aren&#8217;t entirely on board with that philosophy. At least, with respect to intersection planning. Maybe they should all go get econ degrees in addition to help spread those ideas&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Eric</title>
		<link>http://emergenturbanism.com/2009/07/24/fake-complexity-traffic-control/comment-page-1/#comment-245</link>
		<dc:creator>Eric</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 26 Jul 2009 16:00:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hans is my hero!

With Monderman though, the goal was not just more intelligent traffic control, but, ultimately, more intelligent drivers.  Their intelligence, awereness and reason, not convenience, he appealed to.  Monderman&#039;s roundabouts, &quot;squareabouts&quot; as he preferred to dub them, dropped all the monumental striping and curb treatments that North American traffic engineers somehow think they need.  Instead, Monderman created situations where the pedestrian and traffic space melded...necessarily requiring drivers to be more alert and behave like people, not insulated automatons.  Counter-intuitive as it may be, Monderman&#039;s great insight was that the driver&#039;s discomfort and sense of danger needs to be augmented, rather than lessened, to create inherently safer streets.

Thanks for covering Monderman.</description>
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<p>With Monderman though, the goal was not just more intelligent traffic control, but, ultimately, more intelligent drivers.  Their intelligence, awereness and reason, not convenience, he appealed to.  Monderman&#8217;s roundabouts, &#8220;squareabouts&#8221; as he preferred to dub them, dropped all the monumental striping and curb treatments that North American traffic engineers somehow think they need.  Instead, Monderman created situations where the pedestrian and traffic space melded&#8230;necessarily requiring drivers to be more alert and behave like people, not insulated automatons.  Counter-intuitive as it may be, Monderman&#8217;s great insight was that the driver&#8217;s discomfort and sense of danger needs to be augmented, rather than lessened, to create inherently safer streets.</p>
<p>Thanks for covering Monderman.</p>
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