Comments on: How they build today in Palestine http://emergenturbanism.com/2009/01/14/how-they-build-today-in-palestine/ Rediscovering urban complexity Thu, 29 Jul 2010 23:35:57 +0000 hourly 1 By: Yodan Rofe http://emergenturbanism.com/2009/01/14/how-they-build-today-in-palestine/comment-page-1/#comment-307 Yodan Rofe Mon, 12 Apr 2010 13:50:29 +0000 http://mathieuhelie.wordpress.com/?p=268#comment-307 Hello Matheiu, I agree with you that this is not emergent urbanism, but in reality there was no attempt here to copy the complex form of a traditional hill town. The form is a result of applying the various regulations of planning and building, tranportation and parking on an extremely difficult topography. It would probably not have been constructed at all, and certainly not at such high density, if not for strategic - tactical reasons of establishing Jewish presence on the land. I am saying this from first hand knowledge, as I worked for the Minsitry of Housing and supervised some of the planning of this area. Yodan Hello Matheiu,

I agree with you that this is not emergent urbanism, but in reality there was no attempt here to copy the complex form of a traditional hill town. The form is a result of applying the various regulations of planning and building, tranportation and parking on an extremely difficult topography. It would probably not have been constructed at all, and certainly not at such high density, if not for strategic – tactical reasons of establishing Jewish presence on the land.

I am saying this from first hand knowledge, as I worked for the Minsitry of Housing and supervised some of the planning of this area.

Yodan

]]> By: Fred Weiss http://emergenturbanism.com/2009/01/14/how-they-build-today-in-palestine/comment-page-1/#comment-106 Fred Weiss Tue, 30 Mar 2010 19:04:02 +0000 http://mathieuhelie.wordpress.com/?p=268#comment-106 Hi Mathieu, as someone doing the AAS course at the Bartlett - a program which, effectively, is about unpacking Bill Hillier's theories - I must say that following your blog (something I have only just started doing very recently) is such a pleasure: well done! A question: Are you aware of any studies done on processes of emergence and randomness restriction for informal settlements/shantytowns? All the best, Fred Hi Mathieu,
as someone doing the AAS course at the Bartlett – a program which, effectively, is about unpacking Bill Hillier’s theories – I must say that following your blog (something I have only just started doing very recently) is such a pleasure: well done! A question: Are you aware of any studies done on processes of emergence and randomness restriction for informal settlements/shantytowns?
All the best,
Fred

]]> By: Mohamad A. Chakaki http://emergenturbanism.com/2009/01/14/how-they-build-today-in-palestine/comment-page-1/#comment-105 Mohamad A. Chakaki Sun, 25 Jan 2009 10:01:11 +0000 http://mathieuhelie.wordpress.com/?p=268#comment-105 really glad to see this post, Mathieu! i've been fascinated by this issue recently... of 'how they build in Palestine.' both b/c of current events in the region (i.e. Gaza) and b/c of a book i think you and your blog followers would be interested in: "Hollow Land: Israel's Architecture of Occupation", by Eyal Weizmann. peace :) mohamad really glad to see this post, Mathieu! i’ve been fascinated by this issue recently… of ‘how they build in Palestine.’ both b/c of current events in the region (i.e. Gaza) and b/c of a book i think you and your blog followers would be interested in:

“Hollow Land: Israel’s Architecture of Occupation”, by Eyal Weizmann.

peace :)
mohamad

]]> By: Mackenzie Keast http://emergenturbanism.com/2009/01/14/how-they-build-today-in-palestine/comment-page-1/#comment-104 Mackenzie Keast Mon, 19 Jan 2009 03:10:07 +0000 http://mathieuhelie.wordpress.com/?p=268#comment-104 Great post. It's funny to see developers try to imitate organic settlements yet fail so miserably. Suburban residential developments in North America try to do the same thing, really - curvilinear streetstrying to imatate organic growth, as if housing has naturally grown up along some old and winding farm road. Design through the manufactured process can't imitate the design of natural process. It is the process which must form the deisgn, not the other way around, I think. Great post. It’s funny to see developers try to imitate organic settlements yet fail so miserably. Suburban residential developments in North America try to do the same thing, really – curvilinear streetstrying to imatate organic growth, as if housing has naturally grown up along some old and winding farm road.

Design through the manufactured process can’t imitate the design of natural process. It is the process which must form the deisgn, not the other way around, I think.

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