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	<title>Comments on: Decoding paradise &#8211; the emergent form of Mediterranean towns</title>
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		<title>By: Emergent Urbanism &#171; TimberPalace</title>
		<link>http://emergenturbanism.com/2008/12/21/decoding-paradise-the-emergent-form-of-mediterranean-towns/comment-page-1/#comment-103</link>
		<dc:creator>Emergent Urbanism &#171; TimberPalace</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 02:39:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] January 27, 2009 by timberpalace    Mathieu Helie&#8217;s blog Emergent Urbanism has an absolutely excellent post pertaining to the use of emergence theory in Urban Planning and Architecture. [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] January 27, 2009 by timberpalace    Mathieu Helie&#8217;s blog Emergent Urbanism has an absolutely excellent post pertaining to the use of emergence theory in Urban Planning and Architecture. [...]</p>
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		<title>By: How they build today in Palestine &#171; Emergent Urbanism</title>
		<link>http://emergenturbanism.com/2008/12/21/decoding-paradise-the-emergent-form-of-mediterranean-towns/comment-page-1/#comment-102</link>
		<dc:creator>How they build today in Palestine &#171; Emergent Urbanism</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Jan 2009 22:20:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] of Jerusalem built during the 1990&#8217;s. It is the perfect example of an attempt to imitate the complex form of the traditional hill town without employing any of the same processes. As a result the repetition of shapes at the scale of [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] of Jerusalem built during the 1990&#8217;s. It is the perfect example of an attempt to imitate the complex form of the traditional hill town without employing any of the same processes. As a result the repetition of shapes at the scale of [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Architecture et complexité &#171; La Ville Nouvelle</title>
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		<dc:creator>Architecture et complexité &#171; La Ville Nouvelle</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 03 Jan 2009 16:35:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] autre approche peut donner des résultats plus intéressant avec moins d&#8217;effort. Au lieu de dessiner tous les éléments de l&#8217;état final du projet, nous pouvons nous [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] autre approche peut donner des résultats plus intéressant avec moins d&#8217;effort. Au lieu de dessiner tous les éléments de l&#8217;état final du projet, nous pouvons nous [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Procedural architecture &#171; The Downtown Creator</title>
		<link>http://emergenturbanism.com/2008/12/21/decoding-paradise-the-emergent-form-of-mediterranean-towns/comment-page-1/#comment-100</link>
		<dc:creator>Procedural architecture &#171; The Downtown Creator</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Jan 2009 15:35:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] option allows a better result with lower effort, and we can call it &#8220;Procedural Architecture&#8221;. Instead of planning every single [...]</description>
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		<title>By: trinklebean</title>
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		<dc:creator>trinklebean</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 27 Dec 2008 17:10:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A very interesting blog - even for a nonarchitect!
http://trinklebean.wordpress.com</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A very interesting blog &#8211; even for a nonarchitect!<br />
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		<title>By: Mathieu Helie</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mathieu Helie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 18:38:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the problem with New Urbanist codes is not that they are prescriptive - ultimately all codes need to become prescriptive in order to be effective - but that they are Cartesian instead of contextual. A rule like &quot;Specific to zone T3, a. A minimum of two trees shall be planted within the first Layer for each 30 feet of Frontage Line or portion thereof.&quot; is not adaptive to context.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the problem with New Urbanist codes is not that they are prescriptive &#8211; ultimately all codes need to become prescriptive in order to be effective &#8211; but that they are Cartesian instead of contextual. A rule like &#8220;Specific to zone T3, a. A minimum of two trees shall be planted within the first Layer for each 30 feet of Frontage Line or portion thereof.&#8221; is not adaptive to context.</p>
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		<title>By: Eric O</title>
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		<dc:creator>Eric O</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 22 Dec 2008 05:24:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wonderful read!

I agree that Prof. Hakim&#039;s fine distinction between proscriptive vs. prescriptive codes has dramatic applications in the way we ground an approach to urbanism today.  I&#039;d be game to follow any further erudition on your last suggestion.

I think New Urbanists attempt to achieve generative urbanism through proscriptive means with the Transect, but end up falling into Julian&#039;s trap the more they attempt to indoctrinate with pattern books or rely on overly-prescriptive urban design codes/review processes to affect their ends.  (Of course, the Transect does not a city make,...but that&#039;s another issue.)

There are also proscriptive processes embedded in all forms of art and self-expression...The room provided for self-expression should not be forgotten in your work.  Julian Beinart, for example, did wonderful work on the tacit proscriptive processes at work with mural painting in Johannesburg&#039;s shanty towns.  Something of that process is implicit in the way suburbanites decorate their lawns for very dissimilar reasons.

You might be interested to know that Louis Kahn advocated a return to proscriptive Mediterranean &quot;vista zoning&quot; for the overlooking ridges surrounding the Old City of Jerusalem.   He had a wonderful way of looking at the street as a space for &quot;cross-invitation&quot;...a place of &quot;agreement&quot;...some of this which, to be fair to Moshe Safdie, was executed in spirit when he followed Kahn&#039;s plan for the rebuilding of the Jewish Quarter in the Old City.

Very interestingly, there are very notable exceptions to proscriptive approaches in Mediterranean town planning which can be found in the utopian literature of apocalyptic sects.  The first modernists.   The New Jerusalem Scroll of the absolutist Essene sect that produced the Dead Sea Scrolls depicts a &quot;Cartesian&quot; paradise.</description>
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<p>I agree that Prof. Hakim&#8217;s fine distinction between proscriptive vs. prescriptive codes has dramatic applications in the way we ground an approach to urbanism today.  I&#8217;d be game to follow any further erudition on your last suggestion.</p>
<p>I think New Urbanists attempt to achieve generative urbanism through proscriptive means with the Transect, but end up falling into Julian&#8217;s trap the more they attempt to indoctrinate with pattern books or rely on overly-prescriptive urban design codes/review processes to affect their ends.  (Of course, the Transect does not a city make,&#8230;but that&#8217;s another issue.)</p>
<p>There are also proscriptive processes embedded in all forms of art and self-expression&#8230;The room provided for self-expression should not be forgotten in your work.  Julian Beinart, for example, did wonderful work on the tacit proscriptive processes at work with mural painting in Johannesburg&#8217;s shanty towns.  Something of that process is implicit in the way suburbanites decorate their lawns for very dissimilar reasons.</p>
<p>You might be interested to know that Louis Kahn advocated a return to proscriptive Mediterranean &#8220;vista zoning&#8221; for the overlooking ridges surrounding the Old City of Jerusalem.   He had a wonderful way of looking at the street as a space for &#8220;cross-invitation&#8221;&#8230;a place of &#8220;agreement&#8221;&#8230;some of this which, to be fair to Moshe Safdie, was executed in spirit when he followed Kahn&#8217;s plan for the rebuilding of the Jewish Quarter in the Old City.</p>
<p>Very interestingly, there are very notable exceptions to proscriptive approaches in Mediterranean town planning which can be found in the utopian literature of apocalyptic sects.  The first modernists.   The New Jerusalem Scroll of the absolutist Essene sect that produced the Dead Sea Scrolls depicts a &#8220;Cartesian&#8221; paradise.</p>
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